Code-name: Dude within a dude within a dude
[:facepalm: I shoulda just stuck with "TiVo", so much simpler]
Director: Ben Stiller
Writers: Ben Stiller, Justin Theroux and Etan Cohen
Composer: Theodore Shapiro
Type: R-rated Vietnam War Movie/Hollywood Comedy/Parody
Cast:
Tugg Speedman- Ben Stiller
Kirk Lazurus- Robert Downey Jr
Jeff Portnoy- Jack Black
Alpha Chino- Brandon T. Jackson
Kevin Sandusky- Jay Baruchel
Director Damien Cockburn- Steve Coogan
Cody- Danny McBride
"Four-Leaf" Tayback- Nick Nolte
Tugg's Agent Rick Peck- [Matthew] McConaughey
Studio Big Wig Les Grossman- Tom Cruise
[Honorable Mentions]
Bill Hader... his character's name is Rob Slolom... [I knew he was an SNL member and thought this would be the movie that took him beyond that]
Reggie Lee as Flaming Dragon member Byong [who later got a role as Detective Woo on "Grimm"]
Notable Nominations:
OSCAR- Best Supporting Actor- Robert Downey Jr
Golden Globe- Best Supporting Actor- Robert Downey Jr
Golden Globe- Best Supporting Actor- Tom Cruise
Write-up:
First Things First...
Now, this isn't me knocking Heath Ledger. I loved him in "The Patriot" and "A Knight's Tale" [heck, "Brokeback" as well]. His death was a tragedy that jostled me a bit when I was in college.
But I retain to this day that this was Robert's Oscar and there was no way Heath Ledger would have been in that conversation if he was still alive.
"Why The Dark Knight is OVERRATED" is an entry I've got planned for the future with Heath Ledger being the only thing in the (+) column.
The Joker was the only good watchable part of this movie. Doesn't mean I advocate for post-mortem Oscars...
This is how I see it:
My first experience seeing RDJ act was mind-blowingly amazing. It didn't feel like an actor playing a role. It felt someone who lived and breathed it, the likes of which I hadn't seen before.
I can watch "Tropic Thunder" now and still not see Robert. I see this hilarious character with most of the best lines in the movie.
The First Time
When "Tropic Thunder" came out in theaters, I seriously considered
seeing it but ultimately didn't because I'd never seen an R-rated movie in
theaters before.
I remember seeing the trailers, thinking they were freaking hilarious. But the one thing I couldn't wrap my head around was one particular quote. Maybe it was the exaggerated voice RDJ was going for in this role, but it took me a couple weeks to figure out he was saying:
I remember seeing the trailers, thinking they were freaking hilarious. But the one thing I couldn't wrap my head around was one particular quote. Maybe it was the exaggerated voice RDJ was going for in this role, but it took me a couple weeks to figure out he was saying:
"I'm
a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!"
Seriously, I think my head exploded trying to comprehend it. Maybe because it just sounded AWESOME... in a trippy nerdtastic sort of way!
Seriously, I think my head exploded trying to comprehend it. Maybe because it just sounded AWESOME... in a trippy nerdtastic sort of way!
But
after seeing the movie, all of it came together... but still trippy
The only faces I recognized were Ben Stiller and Jack Black... all of that would soon change.
Finally saw this at my college's movie night Fall of 2008 (with my fellow animé club friend Andrew) and we love every minute of it. Laughed the entire time.
The only faces I recognized were Ben Stiller and Jack Black... all of that would soon change.
Finally saw this at my college's movie night Fall of 2008 (with my fellow animé club friend Andrew) and we love every minute of it. Laughed the entire time.
There
was one cringe-worthy moment and it was when Jack Black dig through his
loincloth ... I didn't know the [expletive] was going on there... when he
pulled out a gun, I breathed a huge sigh of relief because it just didn't look
right.
Another standout (other than RDJ) to me was Tom Cruise... who I had NO idea was in this movie until the end credits. I just saw this muscular balding guy who likes to groove to Flo Rida (I liked "Low" already but will forever associate it with this movie :P). The dance moves were so trippy good.
And if you wanna get technical, there was a LOT of trippiness in this movie...
Another standout (other than RDJ) to me was Tom Cruise... who I had NO idea was in this movie until the end credits. I just saw this muscular balding guy who likes to groove to Flo Rida (I liked "Low" already but will forever associate it with this movie :P). The dance moves were so trippy good.
And if you wanna get technical, there was a LOT of trippiness in this movie...
The
Story
...again... mind the spoilers
This
is a movie about making a movie based on a memoir by a member of the U.S. Army
who was rescued from a Vietnam prison camp.
...But
before we see any of this, we see 4 fake trailers starring the actors in this
Vietnam movie.
*
Alpha Chino's "Booty Sweat" commercial
*Tugg
Speedman's latest installment of his "Scorcher" franchise- Scorcher
VI: Global Meltdown ["who left the fridge open?"]*Jeff Portnoy's comedy "The Fatties" (think "Nutty Professor: The Klumps")
*Kirk Lazarus's latest- "Satan's Alley" (think "Brokeback Mountain" but with monks instead of cowboys, co-starring "MTV Best Kiss Award winner" Tobey Maguire)
(btw, who do I see about getting these movies made for real? With RDJ channeling Russell Crowe in "Satan Alley's. Now that dude who's won Oscars!)
The
first 10 minutes [mind you, I'm going by the director's cut version here] show
a climatic finale set in the Vietnam War, an illusion that breaks
when we see the director and crew-- this was a movie they were filming.
Apparently
Tugg Speedman is having trouble with one of his lines and Kirk Lazarus
storms off set in the face of Damien's lackluster directing style.
Everything
is literally going wrong only one week into the shoot.
So
the man behind the war memoir tells Damien to take his cast into the
jungle to scare them into doing some real hardcore acting. He leaves us
prematurely thanks to a random landmine in the middle of a clearing.
Ultimately,
the movie does get made as planned. Tugg Speedman gets kidnapped by the
indigenous people (I use this term cuz I don't know if they're Laotian or
Burmese, it's never made clear) and the other actors have to rescue him.
Their exploits become the documentary "Tropic Blunder" that apparently earns Tugg an Oscar [his former captors, in an alternate ending, believe this is compensating for the "Simple Jack" Oscar snub].
Their exploits become the documentary "Tropic Blunder" that apparently earns Tugg an Oscar [his former captors, in an alternate ending, believe this is compensating for the "Simple Jack" Oscar snub].
The Characters
But
everything that happens in between... that's what makes this gold. The actors
(all playing actors) have to work together to achieve their objective. Along
the way, there's a lot of butting heads, but also moments of clarity when their
issues boil to the surface where they can resolve.
I'm still working on the notion of a drinking game because there are so many great running jokes in this movie :P
Let's
start with the newbie: Kevin Sandusky
He's
the epitome of the "good student"... he did all the work for this
movie, read the book and script and was the only cast member to participate in
boot camp.
Yet
all the other actors can never remember his name :P one "fake" name
he got was Radar... I didn't get the reference until I saw a couple episodes of
M*A*S*H (this came about randomly but I wouldn't mind a revisit)
Ironically,
he was the sanest member of the group and talks them down when "the dudes
begin to emerge"
Hip-hop rapper Alpha Chino brings up his products Booty Sweat & Bust-a-nut for almost every reference the other actors make to their previous roles.
Pretty
much every scene where he's attacking Kirk Lazarus for going too method with
his character is hilarious. Great interaction between these two. Especially
since it's a black man criticizing an Australian for playing a black man
Alpha
Chino:
I thought I just had to represent because they had one good part for a black
man and gave it to Crocodile Dundee
Lazarus: Pump your brakes, kid. That man's a national treasure.
Lazarus: Pump your brakes, kid. That man's a national treasure.
Then later in the movie, one of the indigenous points out that he's not the real Al Pacino, giving a laundry list of his best movies. Eventually this escalates into the final shootout, but I just lose it at this line from Alpha:
"Get
the **** out of here, that's another dude all together!"
[And
I'm not gonna lie, I saw "Dog Day Afternoon" and still want to see
"Carlito's Way" because of that set of dialogue... if you'll notice,
also, Bill Hader wears a hat that says "Scent of the
Woman" at the movie location]
5-time
Oscar winner Kirk Lazarus is a Australian method actor. So method
that he doesn't drop character until after the DVD commentary. For the role of
the African-American army Sergeant Lincoln Osiris, he goes to Singapore for a
controversial medical procedure to have his skin tinted. Yep, he took Blackface
to the extra mile, and more or less based his voice and dialogue on
stereotypes.
In
the epic climax scene, he has a conniption, completely loses character and
realizes "I think I might be nobody"
But
before that, there are too many good lines to list here. While not every word
is intelligible (hell, I still haven't figured out a couple lines of
dialogue), almost everything of his mouth... OMG... I can't help wondering how
much improv went into that.
Jeff
Portnoy is a gross-out comic actor who specializes in farts and an ongoing drug
addiction. After losing his "supply" to a bat (totally out of
nowhere!), he spends the whole "shoot" fielding withdrawal symptoms
and carries himself as if no one else has any idea about it.
We have
the dynamic duo of Cody (the special effects guy who might be a pyromaniac) and
Four-Leaf (who, as it turns out, is the "Milli Vanilli of Patriots").
And
the other duo of Les Grossman and Bill Hader (again, his character's name is
Rob Slolom, but c'mon, it's Bill Hader)... Bill Hader's trying so hard to fall
in line with Les on everything he does, but I don't think Les really respects
anyone. Not even brownnosers like him. He's almost more
hilarious than Tom Cruise in the Flo Rida dance scene, actually.
Finally,
the final scene-stealer: McConaughey as Tugg Speedman's true blue best
friend/agent, Rick Peck...
I
already loved me some McConaughey in all those chick movies he did (Kate Hudson
is intolerable in "How to lose a guy in 10 days" but I always come back
for him), but this was the movie that took me over as a fan.
Supposedly
this role was originally going to be played by Owen Wilson and later went to
McConaughey... for a reason I don't want to go through here. In fact, it's
something I completely forget about except when I muse about the "what
could have been" scenario with this movie. I'm sure he would
have been great, but... yeah, I'll say it again, I love me some McConaughey.
His running joke throughout the movie: making sure Tugg Speedman has TiVo... to the point where he flies off to the jungle to give it to him.
His running joke throughout the movie: making sure Tugg Speedman has TiVo... to the point where he flies off to the jungle to give it to him.
A
Word about Commentary and Censorship
I'd
only recommend it if you'd seen the movie so much that you know the dialogue
well... or heck, I'd recommend it if you're not up for watching the movie and
just want to be treated to a lot of good laughs.
Two
sets of commentary exist on my Blu-ray but I'd only listened to the actors'
commentary- Ben Stiller, Jack Black and RDJ [who is in character up until
the ending credits!!]
They
talk over almost the whole movie, but it's such good fun I don't really mind.
If I wasn't running long already, I would have mentioned on my "Purple Rain" entry that I refuse to see it on cable unless it's a VH1 or music channel. Saw a major hackjob on a low numbered channel that even cut songs in half.
With
"Tropic Thunder," I cannot watch it on TV unless it's a movie channel
like HBO.
a)
because I hate the voice who dubs over Robert's cussing- sounds nothing like
him
b)
"the full retard" scene
As
if Robert doing blackface wasn't controversial enough, there's also the scene
where Kirk Lazarus explains to Tugg Speedman what went wrong with "Simple
Jack," the movie where Speedman plays a "mentally impaired farmhand
who can talk to animals"
I think I read somewhere that a website was created for Simple Jack and due to protests, it was taken down.
I
understand why that's a heated topic, but to say "Never go full
special" just sound STUPID to me... nobody outside this movie's edited
version has ever used that phrase to describe someone going too method while
playing someone with a mental disability.
"Watched
a lot of 'special' people, all the 'special' stuff they did"...
it just doesn't work, I'm sorry
it just doesn't work, I'm sorry
A
Nod to the Writer/Director
I gotta single out Ben Stiller. 12 years prior to this movie, he had a small
role in the Speilberg war movie "Empire of the Sun" where he had the
lightbulb idea "what would it be like to actually make one of these
Vietnam war movies?"
Great writing and great directing on his part.
Great writing and great directing on his part.
Some
of the jokes probably also came from Justin Theroux, who many know as
Jennifer Aniston's steady fiancé. (Yeah, I know he acts occasionally, but
whatever). After this movie's success, he was brought on to co-wrote the
script for "Iron-Man 2." [After returning to the film a
year ago, the first time I saw it since its release, I decided that
this degree of humor didn't feel as natural in that capacity]
The
Genre
As
far as the genre of movie goes, I'd only seen "Platoon." In part
because it won the Best Picture Oscar in my year (1986) but also to see that
infamous pose Tugg Speedman does in the movie.
:shudder: That movie did its joke all right, had me convinced that they were really out there in that harsh terrain at a difficult time in American history. I really liked Willem Dafoe in the movie, but when he died... thanks to Tom Berenger's character (another army member that went dark-side on him)... that broke me. I lost all sense of feeling in my body for the rest of the movie.
:shudder: That movie did its joke all right, had me convinced that they were really out there in that harsh terrain at a difficult time in American history. I really liked Willem Dafoe in the movie, but when he died... thanks to Tom Berenger's character (another army member that went dark-side on him)... that broke me. I lost all sense of feeling in my body for the rest of the movie.
I
still do plan on see "Apocalypse Now" just because it's another great
Vietnam movie, but never again with "Platoon" thanks to what I call
"The Oliver Stone effect."
I
was fine with the "Wall Street" movies, but "Joy Luck Club"
didn't agree with me either. Also part of the reason, as much as I like seeing
RDJ's movies, I cannot think to see "Natural Born Killers." That'd
probably destroy me for a week instead losing a single day.
War
movies might be the more realistic version, but I think I'd rather revisit
Tropic Thunder a million times in my life than have to deal with another brush
with "Platoon"
More
on Downey
I don't remember where I found a list of the most anticipated movies of 2009, but as I went through it, I zeroed on in Sherlock Holmes. He's a figure I'd always been curious but never thought to look into. I looked up the movie on IMDB and [zoom in] saw that Robert would be playing the main role.
After I loved Robert in "Tropic Thunder," I made a note of this... the following year, I'd see 3 of his movies (one being Sherlock Holmes)... then I went to full-blown fangirl mode in 2011 after "Less Than Zero"... perhaps in February I'll go into that in length.
My last entry, I mentioned Prince got me started with my blogging so I probably wouldn't be here with that...
but Robert reinvigorated my writing in 2011 and got me even more enthused about multiple aspects of film beyond the actors.. so I might not be here movie-blogging without him.
Because
of how good he is in this movie (and how unrecognizable he is), the
"fangirl" reflex doesn't come into play here beyond the "Satan's
Alley" trailer. I can just laugh and enjoy everyone and how they interact.
It's
also worth it to mention that this is one of the few of his movies my dad will
watch with me :P the genre might contribute but I think it's because the script
is so good and so funny.
On the Rest of the Cast
Brandon
T. Jackson, I later enjoyed in the "Percy Jackson" movies (even
though they were NOTHING like the books) and I'm still disappointed his
"Beverly Hills Cop" TV series didn't get the green light on TV.
Jay
Baruchel, I'd later go see in my first R-rated theater film "She's Out of
my League"... also loved him in "Fanboys"... Didn't know he was
in "Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist" (I saw that for Kat
Dennings) and he was among the reasons I found that movie unpleasant (that plus
Kat's girl friend hit too close to home for me- one of my college roommates was
like that).
It disappoints me he quit acting (as far as nerdy guys go, he's really cute) but glad he still does "How to Train Your Dragon" movies.
It disappoints me he quit acting (as far as nerdy guys go, he's really cute) but glad he still does "How to Train Your Dragon" movies.
On
Jack Black: I liked "School of Rock," but I think this movie made me
love it. Not just because Ned is a more pleasant guy to be around than Jeff
Portnoy, but I just found more to appreciate about that character with my
enhanced knowledge of music and movies.
Tom Cruise is also pretty hilarious in an unexpected way. One of my top 3 performances of his (along with "Top Gun" and "Rock of Ages"). There was talk of him doing a Les Grossman spin-off movie... whatever happened with that? That'd be cool... again, along with A "Scorcher" movie and "Satan's Alley"
Tom Cruise is also pretty hilarious in an unexpected way. One of my top 3 performances of his (along with "Top Gun" and "Rock of Ages"). There was talk of him doing a Les Grossman spin-off movie... whatever happened with that? That'd be cool... again, along with A "Scorcher" movie and "Satan's Alley"
Coming
Soon
Two
words: Hayao Miyazaki
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